This is EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert Yvonne Marchese is the host of the Late Bloomer Living Podcast, a professional photographer, mom, wife, and serial pivoter. She grew up in El Paso, Texas. In her twenties, she sold everything she owned to follow a lifelong dream… moving to New York City where she worked as an actress for 10 years.
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
She now lives in Norwalk, CT, telling people’s stories with her camera and a microphone. Yvonne is of the opinion that stories can change lives… maybe not in an instant, but in laying the seeds of possibility. She’s someone who works every day to embrace big, scary, beautiful change and believes it’s never too late to pursue a dream. It’s that belief that led her to start a photography business in her 40s and a podcast in her 50s. She is on a mission to redefine society’s ideas on aging and exploring how to live a life by design.
Here is the Transcript:
Nicholas Brown 0:04
Welcome to the Nicholas Brown podcast, a podcast talk show about real estate investing, business leadership and personal development. Each week we explore current real life case studies about how to build financial independence through investing in real estate to build your personal portfolio through passive income models, along with interviews from the top business leaders and personal development leaders. Now, here’s your host, Nicholas Brown.
Nicholas Brown 0:37
Welcome to the show everyone. I’m so excited to always say though, but this year, this year type topic is going to be about pivoting. So what I’m going to do if you guys are watching on YouTube, make sure you guys subscribe. Subscribe to this, actually this topic also, especially if you’re retiring or you’re up in age of your parents or whoever up in age This is a good topic to focus on. And that’s why I say subscribe. If you listen again, make sure you download this also Ladies and gentlemen, this is a great topic to download and play it as many times as you need and pass this on and share this. I’m going to give you a link to this person also. So it’s good information to share. So the person I’m speaking to today, which I apologize heads up my stuff, my think updated on me so Ivonne McQueen, ma quazy, Caray, marquese, kz. Weird Hey, I haven’t written down Ladies and gentlemen, but we’re gonna get to the topic because I expect for it to be more and more time she covered she’s gonna get on me about that. But she’s the host of the late bloomer living podcast, a professional photographer, mom wife and Cyril pivoter. And she grew up in El Paso, Texas in her 20s she sold everything she owned to follow a lifelong dream moving to New York City where she worked as an actress for 10 years. She now lives and no work Norwalk, Connecticut, telling people stories with her camera and a microphone. Yvonne is the opinion that stories can change lives, maybe not in an instant, but in laying the seeds of possibility. She’s someone who works every day to embrace big, scary, beautiful change and believes in, it’s never too late to pursue a dream we’re going to repeat that it’s never too late to pursue a dream. It’s that belief that led her to start a photography business in her 40s and our podcast in her 50s. She’s on a mission to redefine society’s ideas on aging and exploring how to live a life by design. Make sure you join ivas newsletter on our website which is www dot Late Bloomer living.com Welcome to the show he been
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
Nicholas Brown 3:16
very nice.
Nicholas Brown 3:19
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Yvonne Marchese 3:46
Yeah, clubhouse has been amazing. That’s how we met. Right,
Nicholas Brown 3:49
right that
Nicholas Brown 3:53
time because this is I think it was like for example, because of our age kind of old school kind of like that. We just had a teleconference with the falls, you call it one update version, you know, so you just go to your app and listen in you know, talk a lie there on stage speaking there in the rooms. And here we are, you know,
Yvonne Marchese 4:14
yeah, yeah, it’s it’s really powerful stuff. And you just you got man, there’s so many rooms, like you can explore. It’s awesome. We could go on about that.
Nicholas Brown 4:21
Exactly, exactly. But I want to like I said, listen to them, I’m gonna push it we’re gonna have more topics which we can meet her can relate. And if you’re listening into this, yes, it’s about I deal with personal development, and business leadership. But this is where we fall into place is, is retirement and pivoting. We had a long conversation about it, the stages that you go to where if you listen to her podcast, she had more in depth information about that. Also later,
Yvonne Marchese 4:54
yeah, what I do is I tell them about yourself. Yeah, yeah. So what I do on the podcast is I talked to People who have at some point in their life, midlife ish have hit a wall, or were feeling stuck or something happened to them. Some people have gotten sick different things, you know. And then what they’ve done is, is taken that that moment of being stuck or being uncomfortable or sick, and then found the way to work through it found a way to change things up and move through it and reinvent themselves. And so that’s what I talked to people about AI is my jam. I love it. And and so the the idea is that I’m hoping that if somebody else hears the story of somebody who was able to push through that feeling in midlife, where, you know, we get into midlife, and we yet we get to this point where we’re, we’re good at some things. Right? Right. You
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
Nicholas Brown 5:55
know what you’re good at, right? Well, you
Yvonne Marchese 5:57
you’ve, you’ve had the training in it, and you do that, and you, you can kind of do it in your sleep, maybe. But you get to a point where maybe you’re not happy with what you’re doing anymore? Or maybe you just feel like there could be something more and you’re maybe you’re not even sure what it is. Do you think there’s because
Nicholas Brown 6:15
of my stage of life, or is it mostly Is it something being forced when you say, because of their time and you know, I’m it could be different questions. But what, what what was with you that made you pivot? You said, You changed careers? Correct?
Yvonne Marchese 6:33
I did. I did. I’ve done it a couple of times. So in my 40s was the first big pivot. Well, okay, let me kind of go back, right. I was an actress up until my mid 30s, when I had my first kiddo when I had my first baby. And then I was actually kind of almost done with theater. At that point. I wasn’t sure what else I would do. It was no, it was everything I ever wanted to be was was just to do theater and to be an actress. Okay. And once I had kids, I lost that passion. And then I didn’t know what I was doing. I was doing odd jobs. I was working, I was making a living, you know, and I had recently gone back to work. This was when I was close to 40 I’d gone back to work. And because I needed to go back full time. And I had been working three months. And then I got a promotion. and a month later, it was 2008. And the economy just tanked and I got laid off.
Nicholas Brown 7:34
And I work in two types of positions. He was the actor, he was working another job.
Yvonne Marchese 7:39
I had given up acting and I had about five years there where I was like, I just got working as a virtual assistant from home. I wasn’t, you know, it was cobbling together work. And this time, I was like, Okay, I found a job. It was right. You know, it was a random job, but I was like, Okay, I could do this. And then I got laid off and and I was I just was lost. I really didn’t know what I wanted to do. I I you know, I have a degree in theater. You write English minor and I have a lot of customer service experience and admin experience and different things like that, but I wasn’t happy doing any of that. And so my husband bless him was like, sleep on it. It’s gonna be okay, don’t worry. And I went to bed that night. That had been the morning and I looked at him and I said, photography, okay, I want to be a photographer and and bless his heart man, he let me take our charge card and I bought a big fancy camera. Well, I invested in study from home program for professional photography and carried that camera with me everywhere and I became completely obsessed with it and was
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
Nicholas Brown 8:49
by the way ladies and gentlemen go to Instagram. She has a different link for that. Great great photos. Give them a plug right quick Matter of fact, he
Yvonne Marchese 8:58
found Mark photography, Yvonne marquese photography, great my business for that I eventually so the the story is I started as a side gig I finally found a job doing customer service again after a while work photography on the side until I got to the point where I could do it full time. And that’s what I do now that I’m a photographer. I do family photography and headshots and personal branding for entrepreneurs and small businesses and things like that. And I love it. It’s it’s a ton of fun. It’s great. But then as I reached the end of my four days I reached I don’t know what was happening. I kind of maybe a little low grade depression. I don’t they say that there’s a natural dip in midlife of happiness.
Nicholas Brown 9:47
Why do you think it was a depression?
Yvonne Marchese 9:49
I wish I had a lot of physical issues. I still you know, I had just gone full time with the photography but all through my 40s I had been working like a job That wasn’t a perfect fit. And photography was the side gig, which I loved. But I still wasn’t doing it full time. It still wasn’t there. And then when I finally was, I found myself in this dip of energy, and I was having a, you know, I’m not a business person, necessarily. All of a sudden, I’m a business person, I’m in business, I’m trying to figure out how to do the marketing, how to do sales, how to do all this stuff that I need to do to be to be in business for myself. Right. Right. And
Nicholas Brown 10:29
that was a pivot moment, also, right. And I feel like that was a pet it was it’s not like working anymore. It’s kind of a passion.
Yvonne Marchese 10:37
Yes. Yes. doing the work. It was like acting when I when I was able to be in a show, and rehearsing and acting was awesome. But auditioning, you know, right. So, um, so anyway, I don’t know, I was also a little heavier than I’d ever been. I think it was just like a kind of a time of life thing, you know, may have been hormonal, who knows, you know, women that you start to get to that mental puzzle thing. And I, so I decided, finally, to change up my diet a little bit. And then I was doing a lot of reading on self help. And I found Mel Robbins book, The five second roll. And that was like, a trigger for me. I read that I read that book, and everything made sense. And I was like, yeah, I’m hitting the snooze button every morning, and I get up and then I’m not met, I’m out of sorts, and scrambling to get the kids off to school and I was a hot mess. And I thought, okay, so I developed a morning routine. alarm went off, I set it across the room, I changed habits is what happened. So I committed to 30 days of changing the way I was eating and getting up in the morning and exercising and meditating and taking care of myself before the kids got up. So that I had time to focus on what I wanted and setting my intentions for the day. And I suddenly starting to feel great. I start had energy. Did you have to push yourself?
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
Nicholas Brown 12:11
You have to push yourself to do that?
Yvonne Marchese 12:13
Yes, Yes, I did. I did.
Nicholas Brown 12:17
Because that’s one of the different things that we’re trying to we kind of figure out, it wasn’t easy.
Yvonne Marchese 12:21
It wasn’t easy, but setting the alarm across the room. Let me just tell you Game Changer because you can’t just
Yvonne Marchese 12:29
go up
Yvonne Marchese 12:33
and put your feet on the floor and room and then all of a sudden you’re like, well, I’m up.
Nicholas Brown 12:38
Yeah, that’s your initial energy.
Yvonne Marchese 12:40
Yeah, exactly. And so anyway, you know, I just started feeling better. And then I started thinking about the next 30 years of my life. I’m like, Okay, I’m almost 50 I don’t ever really want to retire if I’m doing something I love. I love learning I love right. I’m curious, you know, right? And I started wondering what might be next for me, and I’m like, I love photography. But I don’t know if I see myself doing it my 70s and 80s. It’s really work. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And so I was like, What might I do? I don’t know. And I and I started realizing through my reading and through the research, I was doing that there were a lot of other people in midlife feeling the same way, feeling like there might be something more, okay. And I started to get excited about telling the stories of people who had managed to make it through that feeling of being stuck as an inspiration for other people. And that’s where the podcast idea came from. But then
Nicholas Brown 13:40
that’s a thought Hold that thought too. Yeah, that’s where, cuz I don’t want to waste any time. That’s what my book is focused on. That’s what I focus on generally, during the day, to motivate, teach, and get a perspective. So that’s so what’s one thing is what motivates you to pivot to make that pivot? What motivates you to make that pivot to life is up? I want to get into photography. You know, I noticed your passion, but that the answer what motivates you what what was your motivation? comfort motivates you?
EPISODE 31 🎧 Nick Brown Podcast – Yvonne Marchese Career Pivot Strategies Expert
Yvonne Marchese 14:14
I think I think being uncomfortable in that just just having this that it was like a little, you know, a little piece of sand that’s inside the oyster that turns into a barrel, right, right there. There’s, it’s, it’s, it’s like a little scratchy, itchy, kind of, right. And if it keeps at you for long enough, you then feel the need to take action well, and, and if you can put yourself there, there’s so there it happens to you sometimes some of the people that I’ve interviewed on my podcast, have had cancer, or some other physical thing that has happened to them that stopped them in their tracks where their body was telling them stop. No more doesn’t work for you. You anymore. Yeah. And, and those people have told me that when they finished their treatment, and they survived the process, that when it was then time they were declared healthy and ready to go back to, to life as they knew it, right life as they knew it didn’t exist anymore. Because they had essentially changed,
Nicholas Brown 15:19
right, the pivot, right, the pivot,
Yvonne Marchese 15:21
they had been forced into it in a way and then owned it, and then took it on, and then stepped into it with their own energy. And so you know, I think too, we can do that for ourselves. If and I think that’s done through awareness, it’s through the sitting and listening to yourself and noticing, if you notice yourself complaining all the time, which was a little trick I did with myself, I tried to give up complaining for Lent one year, and I realized that I was complaining not just out loud to other people. I was complaining in my head all the time. Hmm. Little complaints, little those little thoughts that are always nagging. Oh, this isn’t right. That isn’t right. That isn’t right, that isn’t right. And so part of one of the part of my morning routine as I started taking is so you know, it’s just the teach method. So teachers, what did you do? Well,
Nicholas Brown 16:14
you Buck up to a sweater come through it. Yeah,
Yvonne Marchese 16:18
yeah. It’s coming through that and you become aware. You got to become aware of your complaints or your limiting thoughts, whatever’s there. And then you need to make a choice. Right? Did you get to reframe, and you got to say, okay, instead of thinking that, you can replace that thought, and you can kind of set yourself up, okay, when I have this complaint, I’m going to say, I don’t like this, but it allows me to do that.
Nicholas Brown 16:48
She made the point, ladies and gentlemen, you guys hear me on my past? My old podcast don’t condemn and that’s it. No, my my podcast, I always say don’t condemn, don’t complain, because you have a choice. She just said choice to change. You have choices, ladies and gentlemen, to change your situation is in your head. Yeah, telling you, when you realize that you got choices, you can make that change with every moment you make a choice to make a change.
Yvonne Marchese 17:15
Yes, every moment you have a choice, right. And even if the even if you’re in a bad if things have gone haywire, and you’re in the middle of something that you can find, you still have choice in mind to react.
Yvonne Marchese 17:29
That’s right, my situation
Yvonne Marchese 17:31
is right. If you then take that choice, then it’s baby steps. Then it’s like, that’s where the rubber meets the road is awareness and choice, reframing your thoughts and then saying, Okay, what am I going to do with that decision? What am I going to do with that choice? That’s right today? In this moment,
Nicholas Brown 17:52
right. That’s right. That’s step perfect. Doing it. That’s how you go, dude, just make that first step. I always said, we talked about that. So yeah.
Yvonne Marchese 18:04
Yeah. So with the podcast, like I put it off for two years, because I didn’t know how to produce a podcast, right? I didn’t have the money to pay somebody to produce a podcast for me. All right, then COVID happened. This is kind of weird. COVID happened in my shop. My photography business shut down for three months really do thing?
Nicholas Brown 18:23
Yeah. Wow.
Yvonne Marchese 18:24
Can’t what can you do? And so I took that three months, and I had already decided at, like, in December, before, I had put it out on Facebook to my friends and family that I was going to do this podcast. I didn’t know how I first like, I don’t know how I’m gonna make this happen. But I’m gonna do this. And
Yvonne Marchese 18:43
she did when she said it again. She did it.
Nicholas Brown 18:49
Right.
Yvonne Marchese 18:51
It was a moment as part
Yvonne Marchese 18:52
of the pivoting moment. Am I right? Is that part of the pivoting? Yes, you do it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Look, we’re we’re
Nicholas Brown 19:04
excited. That’s exciting. Man. I love the app. The fact that people just taking that first step, Alicia took that first step and did it. Yeah, just be bold on it. Just go.
Yvonne Marchese 19:15
It’s like throwing your hat over the wall. And you don’t you don’t know what’s gonna be on the other side of that. But when you do it, there’s there’s gonna be something there to catch you. You’ve got to trust that, you know, you and it was something I keep telling myself every day as I do this is because I catch myself complaining all the time. Still, it’s a That’s why they call it a practice. These things will go away. It’s it’s not like okay, one and done. I’m all good now, right? Like, I’m still deep in the middle of a process. And so I have to tell myself every day expect success. just expect success and just keep moving. And one of my favorite quotes is Do what you can with what you have where you are, and they attributed That to Teddy Roosevelt. But it was equally he was quoting somebody else in his autobiography, but on the really tough days when I kind of feel like I’m overwhelmed, and I don’t know what to do next, do what you can with what you have where you are.
Nicholas Brown 20:12
That’s right. That’s right. All right, that makes sense. Just get started. So what? What, let me see what what, what is do you have a nut example a tip that you get a quick tip. So now you, you talked about motivation, you motivate someone, you motivate yourself to get up in the mornings by stretching, to go get the alarm clock, which that was kind of like a teaching method. Can you give us a perspective? Whether your What was your perspective at the What was your thinking like that you do? Do you ever? Are you hard on yourself? Oh, yes. Yummy. Did you sit down and say, Man, Nicholas, oh, or whoever I should have did this? Or if I did this, you know, are you modeling social ties at our age? You know, do you just like the really, okay,
Yvonne Marchese 21:05
I am. I am hard on myself. And I’m trying hard. I’m trying. I am taking taking every step I can to stop doing that to stop being my own worst enemy. To get rid of that voice in my head. That is hard on me.
Nicholas Brown 21:21
From the younger years, were you competitive as a young person? Were you in sports or somewhere where you had to compete to
Yvonne Marchese 21:28
act right? Acting is like a competitive? Yes. And I wasn’t I was on the golf team. But yes, I was on the golf team in high school. Yeah, I’m competitive. Yeah, absolutely.
Nicholas Brown 21:40
I think that may be it. That’s what it is for me. Because when we get up in age, they always they send it to you my say yes. But your body says no. So something she can’t do what she is, could do, you know, so I had to think of it sometime also, in the
Yvonne Marchese 21:56
learning technology, right? It can take things can take a little longer, and you you like it’s constantly trying to be kind to yourself, but also giving your it’s like being a coach for yourself. And sometimes, and a lot of the people that I’ve had on the podcast, this has been an ongoing thing is get a coach, right? Yeah, coach, get somebody who can help push you through to the other side, because the people in your life that you are currently surrounded by, they all have the best of intentions for you. But they’re used to you the way you are, in a way you safe, and they want they want that sense of familiarity with your relationship. So if you want to go to the next thing, one of my recommendations is get a coach or an accountability partner somebody who is there to help you push through that stuff. And even the gray would you would you have a little small group accountability group accountability groups are good, maybe different fields or something like for example, me,
Nicholas Brown 23:07
you in three different fields, you know, and you know, we push each other, but we’d be on top of each other. That’s the accountability and it’s competitive. And I believe in journals writing stuff down so you can see how you accomplished that. If not, you can check off these house and it’s more competitive now in my mind, instead of you know, being physical, you know, yeah, so it’s good to have. So what we’re gonna do, we’re gonna pretty much in this in the next few seconds, I definitely appreciate your time because we’re gonna have another tied for this another episode, ladies and gentlemen, I’m gonna push her but I want to get her back on. So any tips anything you got going on for you for your for your business, photography, or for pivoting or anything new last words?
Yvonne Marchese 23:53
Yeah, I’m actually have a guide called five steps to your midlife reboot. And that is available for free on my website. So if you go to late bloomer, living calm, and just look on my Instagram feed, too, you can link right to it from there, sign up for it. And then you get a series of like, five to six emails, it’s five steps well, and there’s exercises along each step and you do them at your own pace. I’d say take a week for each thing and kind of let it all settle in for the week and then move on to the next step. And see where you’re at at the end of five weeks, you know, wow, and then redo then, you know, wash rinse Repeat with the with the sheet, right?
Unknown Speaker 24:37
Right, right. Well, this is I remember those days.
Yvonne Marchese 24:41
This is my husband likes to tell me any day with hair is a good hair day. But yeah, so you know, it’s just like, keep going, just don’t stop, keep going.
Nicholas Brown 24:51
That’s alright, that’s alright. Matter of fact. That’s why I was gonna ask you what’s your favorite saying? What’s your favorite? Were the motivational guy. Your motivation. speeches are things you like to do as you can
Yvonne Marchese 25:04
with what you have where you are. Yeah, that’s all for give up.
Nicholas Brown 25:08
Never give up. That’s awesome. That’s awesome. So how can they get in contact with you?
Yvonne Marchese 25:13
You can find me at Yvonne marquese photography if you need some photos or the podcast is late bloomer living.com
Nicholas Brown 25:21
All right. I appreciate it. Yvonne. I look forward to seeing you again on the next episode. Ladies and gentlemen, if you’re watching on YouTube, make sure you subscribe. Do you have a YouTube channel?
Yvonne Marchese 25:31
Do you do I don’t do a whole lot there yet, but I’m on Instagram. I’m on LinkedIn. So it’s and it’s late bloomer living on on Instagram and on LinkedIn. It’s Yvonne marquese.
Nicholas Brown 25:43
That’s great. Ladies gentlemen. Reach out to her reach out to her any questions. I’m pretty sure you can dm her on the Instagram or syllabuses or YouTube. Make sure you sign on to a website. Reach out to her, ask her the questions. Remember, motivate teach, get a perspective. Reach out to her. She’ll she’ll get you set, she’ll guide you there. So thanks for coming on.
Yvonne Marchese 26:06
Yvonne, you Okay, so much.
Nicholas Brown 26:09
Alright ladies, gentlemen, thanks for watching this this YouTube channel. And thanks for listening in on the podcast wherever you’re watching, listening on the podcast and remember, don’t condemn, don’t complain because you have a choice to make the change. Have a great day. Take care.
Nicholas Brown 26:29
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